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You Cannot Heal Your Way Out of Being Human: A Conversation with Root Cause Therapist Jenna Smith

Justina Sharp Season 1 Episode 22

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What if the healing journey isn't about reaching perfection, but about remembering who you've always been? Root cause therapy practitioner Jenna Smith joins us for a profound conversation that will transform how you view emotional freedom and authentic living.

Jenna's story begins with familiar struggles—an eating disorder, alcohol dependency, and the crushing weight of perfectionism. But when motherhood cracked her wide open, she experienced a spiritual awakening that forever changed her perspective. "Everything was crisper," she recalls of the morning after her breakthrough, "like when you put glasses on after taking them off."

Through her powerful blend of root cause therapy, Reiki, and instinctive meditation, Jenna guides us to understand why our past continues to live in our present. She explains how unprocessed emotions become compounded in our bodies, creating patterns that can persist for decades until we create the space to heal them.

The conversation takes an especially powerful turn when Jenna reminds us that "you cannot heal your way out of being human." True healing isn't about eliminating difficult emotions but developing the capacity to move through them with greater ease. It's about recognizing when we're spiritually bypassing—using work, food, scrolling, or other distractions to avoid feeling—and instead creating safety to process our emotions completely.

For anyone struggling with generational patterns or wondering why they keep repeating the same cycles despite their best intentions, this episode offers both compassion and practical wisdom. Jenna shares how subtle shifts in language and perception can transform our relationship with ourselves, replacing harsh self-judgment with the unshakable self-love we all deserve.

Whether you're just beginning your healing journey or have been walking this path for years, this conversation will remind you that integration—not perfection—is the ultimate goal of transformation. Take a deep breath, open your heart, and allow these insights to guide you back to wholeness.

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Speaker 1:

Hello there, I'm so happy you're here. Welcome to my podcast, sacred Soul Sisters. My name is Justina. I am an Asui, holy Fire and Angel Reiki Master with over 20 years of practice, and I'm your host. I can't wait to let others feel the love of community and remind us of the importance of coming together instead of coming apart. Now let's take a deep breath together in through our nose and a long exhale out of our mouth. This is my intentions in a poem to set the tone for our sacred soul sister community. Here you go.

Speaker 1:

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Speaker 1:

Welcome, beautiful souls, to another heart-expanding episode of the Sacred Soul Sisters podcast. I am your host, jacina Sharp. I'm a Reiki master, intuitive healer and guide for those ready to return to their light, and today's conversation is one that will stir something deep within you. I am beyond honored to introduce our radiant guest, my friend oh, my goodness, she's amazing Jenna Smith, a gifted root cause therapy practitioner, a Reiki master, instinctive meditation teacher, jenna's work is rooted in deep emotional release, nervous system healing and energetic alignment.

Speaker 1:

Through her soul-led business, naturally Empowered Living, she supports women in breaking free from generational cycles and rediscovering who they truly are. Beneath the noise, jenna doesn't just speak about healing. She emb it with intuitive depth, a trauma-informed heart and a rebellious spirit that invites you to think and live differently. She reminds us that true transformation begins when we honor all parts of ourselves, both the light and the shadow. So settle in, open your heart and join us for this intimate conversation about authenticity, emotional freedom and the sacred path of becoming whole. Jenna, I am so freaking excited that you are here today. Oh, welcome.

Speaker 2:

I'm already crying. Thank are oh so incredible.

Speaker 1:

And who I turn to for sessions myself, and you're just incredible Life changer.

Speaker 2:

Oh golly, if you could take a minute and tell us a little bit about your journey and what called you into this deep healing work, oh my gosh, how far back do we start right, the ever the onion right, and tell us a little bit about your journey and what called you into this deep healing work. Oh my gosh, how far back do we start right, the ever the onion right of life. I just like as a whole, as the umbrella, you know, going back to when I was, when we're little right, we don't understand life, we're like going with the flow or we all have different experiences and I am someone that learned at a very, very, very young age the importance of self-love and self-trust and honoring all parts of myself, because I was like the exact opposite, because I didn't love myself, because I would be so hard on myself and the self-sabotage, and I struggled with an eating disorder and I turned to alcohol and I really didn't honor the good, the messy, the rebel, the loving, the anxious, like all those pieces of us, and I struggled a lot growing up with minimal self-worth and just allowing, like the pressures and the external expectations and the shoulds to mold me into feeling like I just wasn't enough or I would settle into that, people pleasing, because I needed to feel that validation or feel good enough. And I just mentioned I did more harm to my body than good. I struggled with an eating disorder all through college and it was that sense of control you know now, like, looking back, I a lot of that reflection that I, the work that I, you know, done in the years past.

Speaker 2:

From that point of my life, it was a lot of that control that I was looking for. And the more you know education that I do now, like working with people struggling with eating disorders, that is a big piece A lot of the time is that control and I, thinking back, this just popped into my head there's. I like to always share this example because, like think of if you have children, or when you were little yourself, like you'd have those, those music recitals right in grade school, elementary, I would be the one that wouldn't go on stage and I would just be sobbing because I didn't want to get on stage in front of people. And like the teachers would like call for my parents and like that is still told at family events. So like it still cycles through my mind. Now I know like there's so much depth behind that.

Speaker 2:

But I mean then you know, put yourself into a five-year-old, 10-year-old, teenager, adolescent, and I took it all as like emotions are bad, like crying for me. I couldn't cry and crying is still today. I didn't cry for years, but now, presently, like crying is the easiest form of release for me. But back, you know, growing up, it's like I just thought I couldn't cry, I thought I, I don't know what this emotion, what this big feeling is and what's within me, but obviously releasing it or processing it this way must not be right and I just want to.

Speaker 2:

I struggled for decades, two decades, with alcohol and, just, you know, numbing those edges with, because the anxiety was too high or I would, you know, feel a certain feeling and I'm like, well, I don't know how to get rid of it. So, you know, alcohol would just kind of bring it down a little bit and numb that feeling a little bit. And yeah, so I feel like motherhood really is what cracked me wide open and I feel like it's very common, right, amen, sister, from a mom and you're like whoa, is life right and it, it was that. Like I, I um, struggled with the postpartum, you know, depression, the anxiety, just like that blur of probably, you know, the first year, probably, you know, becoming becoming a mom and that's actually. I've had many light bulbs within my, my journey of life to kind of, this is your opportunity to wake up. And I didn't take it, didn't take it, didn't take it. And then, becoming a mom, I was finally like okay, whoa, like what's what's going on. And that was with my first and then with my second.

Speaker 2:

I actually had a physical like awakening, if you will will, like I remember, um, one evening, both of my kids, my husband was bathing them and I would, I like, went into this trance and to me in that moment it was like I was in somewhere else, I wasn't in my house and I like had this tunnel and I was like trying to get through this tunnel and I saw the light at the end and it was it and I would like come out of it and then I would go back in and it was just this beautiful now is what I would call it. But then it was very scary. I was, and then, like being in this physical, obviously human experience, my husband, seeing me, he's like you just cried. You were just crying on the stairs, you were crying in the living room. I just wanted to keep the kids away from you because I didn't know what was going on.

Speaker 2:

But I didn't want them to see, like it was just this weird right. But I will never forget the next morning when I woke up I'm looking out my window right now. I woke up and I remember seeing the trees outside my bedroom window and like everything was crisper, like I actually do have. Like that's the one comparison I could give. Like when you are like have glasses, take your glasses off, put your glasses on. Like it's just so clear.

Speaker 1:

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Speaker 2:

Return to the episode and have a great day scenes, so, so, excited, return to the episode and have a great day. And that next morning I remember I dropped my um, I must've dropped my kids off. My youngest wasn't old enough to, she didn't go to daycare yet, so I must've dropped my oldest off to daycare. My youngest was in the back seat and I just remember like sobbing, like in, just like what was that last night? And I would, I started hearing all these like voices like you're a healer, you're a healer, and all like the floodgates opened and from that point on it was just like a lot of fear, a lot of curiosity, a lot of like what is this? Because I also grew up Christian, catholic, and it's like the dogma of so much within religion which I still I mean I still believe in God and I have a very good connection with you know higher power and things like that. But it was very much that dogmatic piece that I was scared of, like what can of worms am I opening? What? What it like the spiritual warfare is, I guess how I can solve that. So insert the past. You know, five plus years on this journey, but it, I mean it's just been a beautiful unfolding.

Speaker 2:

I mean I got into energy healing to begin with, and then meditation is what saved me. Actually, postpartum I didn't know what meditation was, but I learned like, oh, this is, this is what I was doing. I'd be nursing my, my son, and I would just like go in this trance and like just cycle through thoughts and the day and this and that. And I learned then that meditation isn't just about silencing your mind, it's about you know, allowing what's meant to be to kind of process and come up. So, uh, yeah, I got certified in instinctive meditation and then something that voice was like this this is it, but it's not all of it. Like there's one more piece to that puzzle. And root cause therapy is that somatic, um, trauma, informed imprint. That kind of makes my, my whole.

Speaker 1:

It's so incredible. You are just so gifted at what you do and I'm so grateful that this world has you. I mean, I I'm so grateful. You know you often talk about somatic emotional release and subconscious healing. But what does that process, or those processes, look like for someone just starting their healing journey? So they come to you and they realize that there's a lot of beliefs that they have going on and they're not quite sure if something is wrong with them. I think that's often what people come to right away. They're like what's wrong with me? What? What do you say to someone in in that situation?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, oh my gosh, such a good question. It really is like starting with that pause, like, okay, we are here, let's bring awareness to where we are in this moment, if you know, if I'm in a situation with someone talking to them, because so often we get so bogged down with what we should be doing, what someone else's needs are, what's going on, what's expected of me, maybe even not even communicated expectations, the expectations that we're putting on ourselves from something external it's all that external stuff to where let's bring it back inside and that's a really that first step that I work a lot with with my clients is that awareness piece. Yes, that awareness with what we're struggling with. Yes, that awareness of what you're actually going through. If it, if you know you struggle with anxiety, if you know you struggle with, you know X, y, z, but to bring that awareness and then, okay, how can we connect with ourselves to now you know process through, because to paint like this picture is we all.

Speaker 2:

We all live complex lives, we're all busy, we, you know we all live, go, go, go, right, like one of my, my goals, right, it's always like I'm going to choose the slowdown, I'm going to choose the quiet, because so often, like there's always a million things going on. And another thing is we've all been through hardships. We've all had some sort of trauma, imprint or compounded, stuck emotions or events that we weren't able to process. And we've all had different upbringings. Right, we're all so different but we, to to the core, it's all paralleled in terms of we all have, we're all made up of energy, right, we are all made up of energy and with that are our emotions, and is that energy that possibly compounds and I really coming from like that, you know now, like the process, the approach is to unbe be able to bring that awareness to start to unravel possibly a past experience or to just give that education, like it might not be necessarily this traumatic experience.

Speaker 2:

Two people can experience the same situation. One can have that imprinted and compounded and one may be able to process it within that moment. It is all within what our system, our actual physical nervous system, was able to process in that moment. If it was at capacity, it probably wasn't able to process. And then it gets compounded If it was able to process our you know, our chakras, our energy systems, like it was able to fully flow through. So the more events that we have, if we are at that emotional nervous system capacity, things start to get compounded and stuck within our bodies. So, bringing in that root cause therapy approach as we get to those roots, okay, where is, you know, this root compounded within my chest? Oh, that anxiety might be, you know, connected to that, to that rut.

Speaker 2:

So, because it I mean it could be years and years and years past and it's still actively living in our present life and I feel like we so easily overlook that because of our present lives are so busy. To kind of pause, stop and understand that our past still lives in our present, like, yes, it doesn't. It doesn't have to shape you, it doesn't have to define you, but it does still live in your present and it's your responsibility to heal that.

Speaker 1:

I find it interesting that you know. So our perspectives of things change so much over the years, right? And I feel like sometimes what I hear people say and I think we've discussed this before too you know, you have someone say in their 50s, and you know, in the process of this healing, this situation comes up, this trauma that they experienced, and they're like, well, it's not that big of a deal. I don't even know why I got, so you know, hung up on that or so traumatized. Well, when you were three it was a big deal, yeah, right, so it can still be living in you, even though, consciously, at 50, you don't see that trauma as so traumatic, right, yeah. And I and I just find that really interesting because I think sometimes people are like, well, I'm older now, so I mean, I don't think of this stuff this way, so I'm sure it just went away, exactly.

Speaker 2:

Exactly, maybe not.

Speaker 1:

Maybe it's hanging on a little. So many women struggle with breaking generational patterns, right? You see this all of the time. You know, this is how mom did things, this is how grandma did things, this is how great grandma did things. How do you support clients and gently but powerfully releasing these inherited cycles, like reminding them that they have permission, I guess is?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah. No, that's a beautiful question and one that's very heavy and it's very deep in it. I mean because it really comes to that point of the compassion, because there might be weight there of not wanting to break a tradition quote, unquote, right or feeling that you would let someone down, or so it really depends on what type of pattern or cycle or what it is, if you're aware of it, that you're willing or wanting to break. But also to really just again bring that awareness into what is it? What is it? And if it is something possibly that you're not aware of, but you're like, okay, my great-grandma struggled with anxiety, I'm just going to stick. You're like, okay, my great grandma struggled with anxiety, I'm just gonna stick with anxiety. Great grandma struggled with anxiety, and, yeah, my grandma did too. Oh, my mom did too, and I do too.

Speaker 2:

Like to kind of see that type of cycle, um, and then to bring it within your present life you could really pay attention to. Okay, when am I triggered with my anxiety? What happens, what Is it a specific event that I go into? Or like, is that trigger? If I, if you will, um, to really pay attention to what it is that that's going on Um. So there's almost there's.

Speaker 2:

It's never black and white, right, and I know that you, you can agree with that. It's healing is never black and white. So there's a lot of different avenues that we, that we can take Um, but it really is that education piece in terms of breaking down. You know, consciously we might be aware of something but we might not be aware of something, and that's where the subconscious lies and that's where a lot of that generational, those generational patterns reside, is in that subconscious and I really, if you agree with this, you know, chime in here because it's like, yes, our dna, like things get passed on through our dna, things get passed on, um, through that piece. I call it your subconscious and I know that there's more terms, but it's very much everything that we're not consciously seeing.

Speaker 2:

Right, so the subconscious is the autonomic what's going on. We don't have control over Um, and that subconscious piece is a lot of times when we have these habitual patterns where you're like, okay, I'm 50 years old, why am I still going to the fridge every night and eating this chocolate cake that's in my fridge? I don't want to be eating this chocolate cake, but, by God, for the past 30 years it's given me the emotional escape. It's made me feel good. It's, you know, so like it. The emotional um, or maybe that reward, if you will, is greater than that conscious willpower of wanting to stop eating the damn chocolate cake right right, you bring in that, that piece of okay.

Speaker 2:

Why, like, why am I going to this pantry? You know? Because oh, I, I feel better, it gives me that escape, it's making me feel comfort, and then we could kind of, you know, unravel a little bit deeper once we kind of get to those ruts. Wow, I don't know if that answers your question.

Speaker 1:

No, it does. It does and I, you know that brings me to another question too. I and I feel like I struggled with this question uh, and early in my spiritual journey and my healing journey myself, I found myself, uh, doing some real spiritual bypassing Uh, and I was like, oh, you know, it's good, uh, I'm just going to go ahead and skip. Uh, these last 10 years or so, we're just going to kind of, um, we're good, right, cause, like, technically, my age is past, that Uh, so really we'll just uh, you know, I'm cool, everything's good, and um, um, perfect, right, what would you say the difference between true embodied healing and spiritual bypassing? And how? How can we tell which path we're on? Like what, what would? What are some scenarios where it would look like one versus the other?

Speaker 2:

Ooh, great question. Okay, so you might have to reel me back in a little bit. So there were a couple of different points there. So spiritual bypassing I just want to paint an example quickly is just think of a coping mechanism or a vice if you feel yourself getting heightened or angry or anxious, or you know, just feeling a feeling and grabbing for the credit card to go shopping, to bypass to. Or the alcohol let's, let's figure this. Yeah, let's figure this later.

Speaker 2:

Or alcohol, or gambling, or food, or you know, whatever that might be, anything that you are allowing to shove under the rug and just stay distracted, to get by. And we all do it, I still do. I like went to bed the other night and I was like, oh, I feel like I was in a little bit of a like a dissociation type thing. Like I was like looking at my planner for like five minutes and I'm like whoa, like snap out of it, you know so, and that was that's one of my things to where it's like I zone out so much because it's like all right, just come back, you know, to center.

Speaker 1:

So mine used to be work and I, as a Virgo, I was like well, I am doing great because I'm working three jobs and dah, dah, dah, dah dah.

Speaker 2:

And I would work nonstop.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I realized what I was doing Exactly.

Speaker 2:

Well, exactly, it could be anything so often like drugs, alcohol, you know, get that bad rap, quote unquote. And I'm not saying like they are healthy by any means, but there are so many different porn, gambling, work, like there could be so many different things, that you are escaping your reality. And again, like sitting down and scrolling your phone or scrolling Netflix or whatever. Again, there's a time and place for things. So I'm not saying don't do any of these things.

Speaker 2:

I'm not completely sober, I've healed tremendously Like it's that awareness right. So, when it comes to that spiritual bypassing to really just pay attention, to pay attention to when you do feel a hard emotion you actually allow yourself to feel and this is where the work comes in to feel that emotion. Emotion because energy or, excuse me, emotions are energy in motion. So when we pull for that vice, we're stopping that motion to you know, complete its, its process. There were a couple of different questions within that question, though.

Speaker 1:

Guide me back. There is but, uh, I just want to make a comment real quick. And once we, if we get to a place where we don't ever release those emotions, they start to wreak havoc in the body, yeah, yes, and and they start to build disease. I mean it just, it's one form or the other, whether it's inflammation, whether it's cancer, whether it's but if we don't ever give ourselves the opportunity to release this, that's why the work that you do is so incredibly important. Yeah, the other part was what does it look like? So we talked about what spiritual bypassing looks like, but what does it look like to be fully healed? So, in the instance where somebody is working three jobs so they don't ever have to like focus on their life themselves because they're too busy, I mean, they don't have time to like go inward right, oh sorry, I gotta go back to work or I gotta work late Like what would someone that has went through a lot of this healing working with you? What would? How would that look?

Speaker 2:

different, okay, okay. So first is to give yourself permission, the invitation, the acceptance that we cannot fully like, heal our way out of being human right, like breaths, like we're never going to be perfect.

Speaker 1:

Right, amen, amen. Can you say that one more time we?

Speaker 2:

can never heal our way out of being human. We can never fully be perfect.

Speaker 1:

Thank you. Thank you Think of the infinity symbol.

Speaker 2:

This was something that I bring in all the time for my instinctive meditation certification. They call it syzygy and it's a union of opposites and they picture this infinity symbol. So let's put in emotions here, right, the ebbs and flows of life, the you know you feel anxious and you feel at calm, you feel angry and you feel joy, like you're always going to be ebbing and flowing through seasons of life. The thing is is, if you want to bring it from a nervous system standpoint, going back to kind of what we were talking about from the beginning is when we make space within our nervous system, when we've done some healing work, when we have processed some compounded energy you know, possibly went through energy healing, reiki, root cause therapy or different modalities, meditation, journaling, automatic writing there's a lot of ways to bring calm and regulate quote unquote that nervous system, to bring that space to. When shit does hit the fan, it's five minutes or a few hours versus a day or a week that you're like and out.

Speaker 1:

Does that make sense?

Speaker 2:

Yes. So it's really creating that space, giving your body that safety. I'm feeling anxious right now, not so much. This is something I'm working with my kids. There are six and three. You're not a bad kid. You did something bad or you know. You're not naughty, you acted. No, I mean, I don't even really say naughty because they call each other naughty. I was like, stop calling each other other naughty. So that was a bad example. But, like speaking to an adult, like you are feeling anxious or I am feeling angry, like because, again, your subconscious mind it's very generalized, so, consciously, you're like, okay, I, I'm an angry person, but just your subconscious, like that's an identity that you possibly can be forming. So just little shifts in how you talk to yourself. It doesn't have to be so big, yeah, it doesn't have to be the woo affirmations, which are very powerful, but just those little tweaks of the perspectives of I'm feeling anxious right now. So that's one example.

Speaker 2:

Another one is to actually allow yourself to be. We call it fibers within our house. Um, I've, I've used it from the very beginning. I've never liked the word time out, but it's the same thing. It's just not like a discipline. It's like, hey, let's go take a fiber, let's breathe. Let's maybe possibly figure out like you're obviously angry, but what happened? Or you're obviously feeling a certain feeling. Let's breathe through this for a minute to actually come back down and then we'll talk. So there's a lot of different practices that you can do, but the most important is to understand and give yourself that permission that you're never you. The most important is to understand and give yourself that permission that you're never, you're never going to be perfect, you're never going to not feel angry, you're never going to not feel stress or overwhelm or anxiety. It's having those tools to know that you're safe through those hard feelings, when you do feel them, and then how to process them.

Speaker 1:

Yes, it is so incredible. I the words you are not bad is so important. I feel like so often, so many of us, as kids, just adopted that right Like they're like well, if I do this, I'm bad, you know. Or if I have this feeling, I'm bad. Or if I'm crying in public, I'm bad. So, just having that permission and that recognition, that like, just because you're feeling an emotion, you're not bad, there's no judgment on it. I think that's what's so incredible about how you show up in a sacred space, you know, creating a sacred space for people. I just one or two more questions and then we'll let you go. But so what is something you wish that every woman knew deep in her bones about her? I know one thing is hard, but like what is something like your daughter, for instance, that when you really think about the people that you truly care about, what is something you wish that they knew beyond about? You know what am I trying to say beyond a shadow of a doubt? Like they knew.

Speaker 2:

Oh, brilliant, brilliant question and I do know the answer. It came in and then you said daughter, and I was like, yep, because this is what I tell my children. If I could teach them. So I mean this is probably universal. My universal truth like this is, my mission on in this lifetime is to teach you. To teach you I'm trying to like reword it for my kids, right, Because this is what I tell my kids but to have the unshakable self-love for yourself and what I mean by that?

Speaker 2:

Like the self-love, love yourself unconditionally, Okay, like buzzword, whatever. What does that mean? Break this down. To love yourself is to take the time to connect with you, to connect to what those inner whispers are within you, to trust yourself above anyone else, To believe like, ooh, this feeling I'm feeling in my body, it's trying to tell me something. It's trying to tell me something. I'm going to trust this feeling versus what this person next to me is telling me, or or. And to have that confidence, right, Because we're all going to meet different people and not get along with everyone and possibly have a crap day at work or get fired or whatever, Like we're always going to have, you know, ups and downs. Just be confident in who you are, so that self-love is like this, umbrella for belief and trust and confidence and connection with yourself.

Speaker 1:

I think that you know. I would recommend everyone to rewind this and re-listen again, because I feel like this would really help you. Just in today's world as well, we have so many news outlets coming at every second. We have so much information being bombarded at us 24 seven, and something I try to teach my children too is just because it's on the internet doesn't mean it's real. Yeah, Doesn't mean it's truth.

Speaker 2:

Well, an AI? Oh gosh, don't even get me started Like what's real, what's not, what's this? I want truth.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, really learning to trust yourself, I think, is so freaking important. I think really taking that pause too, because it's really hard to really check in with what we feel about something when we're going 900 miles an hour, Right, like because we could totally mistake it for a million other things. But if we do take a minute, just a pause and just be like, okay, what am I feeling in this moment, does this feel like truth to me? Yes, exactly, it's just incredible. So, jenna, if you can let everybody know how they would go about booking an appointment with you, what services you offer, what your contact information is and how they can find you, what services you offer, what your contact information is and how they can find you.

Speaker 2:

That would be great. Oh, thank you. Thanks so much. So my website is naturally empowered livingcom. I'm on Instagram every now and again. But website naturally empowered livingcom, instagram is naturally empowered living. My podcast is also naturally empowered living and, um, yeah, my, I have like one of those link tree things. So that's on my Instagram and I mean that's where you can find my website and my booking links. But the website is essentially where, where it's at.

Speaker 1:

Okay, and you have a newsletter as well, right?

Speaker 2:

Yep, I do have a newsletter. It essentially goes out every week, just like dropping the podcast, and then if there's any big events, announcements or anything like that, yeah, just to stay connected within the world. Cause, again it's, there's a lot going on.

Speaker 1:

There is a lot going on in. Any support that we can get would be, I mean, appreciated for sure. Thank you so much for that. So, wow, I'm so grateful what a powerful and soul nourishing conversation that was. I mean, jenna reminded us that healing isn't about perfection. One more time Healing isn't about perfection, it's about integration. It's about loving ourselves through the layers, through the discomfort and through the remembering of who you have always been. If something stirred in you today, trust that it's your soul speaking been. If something stirred in you today, trust that it's your soul speaking. This journey back to self, back to wholeness, is sacred and you, you, are so worthy of walking it fully and freely. Thank you so much for joining us for this episode of the Sacred Soul Sisters podcast. I'm so grateful you're here, part of this ever expanding circle of light. Be sure to follow Jenna on Instagram. Be sure to sign up for her newsletter, visit her website, book an appointment with her. All of those will be on her naturally empowered living website, and the links are in the show notes below. Until next time, may you walk with grace, remember your power and know that you are always guided. You're always and you are very, very deeply loved With all my heart, justina.

Speaker 1:

Hey everyone, I wanted to take a quick second and say thank you, thank you, thank you. I'm so grateful for you, thank you for listening to this podcast, and I want to take a minute and ask for a quick favor. If, when you're listening to an episode, if you could please just take a second, place your hand on your heart and take a deep breath in through your nose and a long exhale out of your mouth, and just set the intention to send love and light to every single person listening right now, yesterday and in the future. I think together we just might be able to raise the vibration of this world. I'm so excited and please follow me on Instagram at AngelReikiJourney, visit my website to book an appointment with me at AngelReikiJourneycom and please follow this podcast. Sacred Soul Sisters, thank you so much and I can't wait to talk to you again soon. Have a great day.